The 8-ball made out of turn constitutes a loss. If you are going to play pool, try to avoid playing anyplace that has “house” rules. Join the APA pool league in your area. They have 250,000 active amateur pool players Nationwide, including Canada and Japan. Their web site has a complete set of rules for 8-ball and 9-ball that are used consistently wherever you play APA pool. The site can also tell you where a league is in your area.